In this interview, Günther Thallinger, Member of the Board of Management at Allianz and Founding Chair of the Net Zero Asset Owner Alliance, discusses why COP30 in Belem this November must be treated as a “major strategic discussion” on the future competitiveness of national economies. Moving beyond high-level pledges, Thallinger highlights the role of asset owners in shaping practical solutions for the transition to a sustainable economy. Key Discussion Points: -Why governments need to frame COP30 as an economic strategy, not just an environmental one. -The potential of public-private partnerships to accelerate the transition to a net zero economy. -How pricing nature loss could reshape investment and policy decisions. The importance of target-setting and stakeholder communication in achieving transition plans. Listen to the full conversation in Sustainable Investor’s series of asset owner interviews by clicking the link: https://sustainableinvestor.online/ta...