Interview with Ruud Knaapen, the author of the book "Wisdom of the herd, coaching with horses" and one of the founding fathers of coaching/therapy with horses by Claudia Vassao and Katherine Jansen about Horse Assisted Coaching and Therapy. This interview was presented at an International On line Seminar for Animal-assisted therapy and pet therapy on november 13/14 organized by Omega. Ruud Knaapen talks about the most recent insights in his work with horses and the essence of facilitating when working with these animals. www.wind.nu