Growth Secrets From the Best of the Best — Episode 451
What separates the firms that scale from the ones that stay stuck? In this special mashup episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with the four Firm of the Year winners from the 2025 Game Changers Summit. Laura dePaz Cabrera of dePaz Cabrera Immigration Law, Koro Khamo of Khamo Law, John Richmond of Richmond Vona, and David Meyer of Meyer Wilson Werning each share what it really takes to build a firm that grows without burning you out in the process. From learning to let go of control to betting the farm on the right technology, this episode reveals the mindset shifts and strategic decisions that turned their practices into powerhouses. Key Moments: 5:14 — Laura DePaz Cabrera on building a human-centered immigration practice 16:08 — Why the outcome must always be tempered by the human impact 19:01 — Laura describes the culture of relentless pursuit of excellence 27:35 — Koro Khamo on scaling from startup to Premier Firm of the Year 40:26 — How Koro uses 11-year forecasting and AI to drive growth 44:29 — Why staying in place means falling behind in today's market 49:42 — The overpaid employee trap: why solos need to think bigger 54:09 — John Richmond on scaling from two people to 50+ in six years 1:06:24 — How leadership evolves as you scale from six to eight figures 1:07:41 — Defending culture at all costs, even when it means losing high performers 1:14:49 — Richmond Vona's approach to AI integration and change management 1:16:22 — David Meyer on transforming from chaos to intentional growth 1:24:25 — The catalyst that shifted Meyer Wilson from technical mastery to business excellence 1:32:25 — How David learned to let go and trust his leadership team 1:36:50 — Training for an Ironman as proof of a self-managing firm About Crisp: Crisp (crisp.co) is a law firm growth company. We help committed law firm owners and their teams differentiate their firms, amplify their brands, and dominate their markets. Our clients generate limitless growth in their businesses with superior brand differentiation, world-class video marketing, and transformational coaching. We’re on a mission to help over 10,000 law firm owners grow their revenue by $10 million ($100 billion impact). Our approach is to take everything we've learned to generate massive growth in our own organization and help the country's most ambitious law firm owners do the same for theirs. Follow Michael Mogill: Website: https://michaelmogill.com/ Facebook: / mogill Instagram: / mogill Twitter: / mogill Linkedin: / mogill Follow Crisp: Website: https://crisp.co/ Facebook: / crispgrowth Instagram: / crispgrowth Twitter: / crispgrowth Linkedin: / crispgrowth
