Quick and dirty comparison of some Cymbal & Gong cymbals. Recorded on an iPhone. 0:00 - L-R: all Mersey Beat: 20" 2215g / 18" - ~1350g / 18" ~1350g / 20" - 2228g 1:08 - Same group, cymbal on L replaced with 20" - 2223g 2:15 - L-R: all Holy Grail: 18" "Gene" - 1379g / 20" A-type "Mayfield" - 1842g / 18" - 1413g / 20" K-type - 1764g 3:38 - L-R: 14" American Artist 1050/900g / 14" Holy Grail 1000/784g For the Mersey Beat set we preferred the 18/1350g, 20/2228g, and American Artist hihats. For the Holy Grail set we preferred the 18/1413g, "Mayfield", and the HG hihats. The 1764g HG would also work well with that 18 and hats. Played with a Bopworks Swing Classic stick - a hickory a 7A. These personally selected cymbals are for sale at WWW.CYMBALISTIC.COM Cymbal & Gong is a Portland, Oregon company with cymbals hand made in Turkey to traditional specifications, emulating the sounds of jazz in the 1950s and 60s. Cymbalistic is associated with the drumming blog WWW.CRUISESHIPDRUMMER.COM