On this week’s show, The Spectator’s deputy editor Freddy Gray speaks to Douglas Murray about policing in America: ‘America is always one bad police interaction away from riots, burnings, lootings and much more.’ Also on the show, contributor Owen Matthews and ex-GRU officer Dmitri Trenin debate how the war in Ukraine will end, columnist Rod Liddle says people are becoming detached from reality, and associate editor Toby Young explains how the government monitored him for challenging lockdown. // THIS EPISODE 00:00 – Welcome from Freddy Gray 01:36 – Will Putin surrender? With Owen Matthews and Dmitri Trenin 22:50 – The truth isn't subjective, with Rod Liddle 36:07 – Douglas Murray and Heather Mac Donald on America's policing 'problem' 50:02 – Toby Young on being monitored by the government // SUBSCRIBE TO THE SPECTATOR Get 12 issues for £12, plus a free £20 Amazon voucher https://www.spectator.co.uk/tvoffer // FOLLOW US / spectator / officialspectator / the-spectator / spectator1828 Theme song written and performed by Jon Barker © 2020 Jonathan Stewart Barker Publisher Jonathan Stewart Barker 100%, administered by prsformusic.com Recording © 2020 Jonathan Stewart Barker 100%, administered by ppl.com