In this episode of People + Strategy, SHRM President and CEO Johnny C. Taylor, Jr., SHRM-SCP, talks with renowned business scholar and HR thought leader Dave Ulrich about how and why HR has reached a true inflection point. Ulrich reflects upon his decades of experience to explore how AI, workforce burnout, and rising expectations from boards are reshaping what organizations need from HR today. Their discussion dives deep into how HR leaders can move beyond employee experience alone to create measurable stakeholder value. Together, they reflect on the hard truths facing HR, and what it will take for the function to lead with credibility, evidence, and lasting impact. SHRM State of the Workplace 2026 Report: https://www.shrm.org/topics-tools/res... 2026 CHRO Priorities and Perspectives Report: https://www.shrm.org/topics-tools/res... Subscribe to People + Strategy podcast to get the latest episodes, expert insights, and additional resources delivered straight to your inbox: https://shrm.co/nq47pr --- Explore SHRM’s all-new flagships. Content curated by experts. Created for you weekly. Each content journey features engaging podcasts, video, articles, and groundbreaking newsletters tailored to meet your unique needs in your organization and career. Learn More: https://shrm.co/coy63r Subscribe to our channel: https://shrm.co/0l0tt5 SHRM is a member-driven catalyst for creating better workplaces where people and businesses thrive together. As the trusted authority on all things work, SHRM is the foremost expert, researcher, advocate, and thought leader on issues and innovations impacting today’s evolving workplaces. With nearly 340,000 members in 180 countries, SHRM touches the lives of more than 362 million workers and their families globally. Discover more at SHRM.org. Advance your career and build better workplaces with SHRM. Become a SHRM Member: https://shrm.co/j5l2ol Attend a SHRM Event: https://shrm.co/jn2yj0 Get SHRM Certified: https://shrm.co/3t0h0f Subscribe to SHRM’s Flagships: https://shrm.co/3qi0uk https://www.shrm.org / shrm / shrmofficial / shrm / shrmhq https://www.shrm.org/flagships